Curse

Winterclaw · Apr 08, 2007, 06:29 AM // 06:29

Or you can have your MM let all his minions die before the party goes into the final battle. Really there are ways around this.

Onarik Amrak · Apr 08, 2007, 12:52 PM // 12:52

Forcing his minions to die will take a while. Say goodbye to Masters (if you're going for it). Also you can't really control what the other team will do.

Bryant Again · Apr 08, 2007, 04:41 PM // 16:41

This is the reason why I gave up on my ranger. This mission can be pretty risky for Survivor's title. I recommend just avoiding it completely, at least for now. If you have Heroes, just do all the quests you can in Nightfall, first, then if you still need some more Exp, I would try it then.

And if you do end up doing it when you're still going for survivor, log out, then log back in again during the cutscene. I agree that yes, no one should be forced to skip a cutscene if they want to see it. However, I don't think that that should impede on the Survivor title. There can't be anything done about that, though.

General Zephyr · Apr 08, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24

I dont know if this has been mentioned before, but why not have the option of watching the cutscenes at a later date, say after the mission after you've left your party. Then have a majority vote during the mission whether to skip or not...if only one or two people really want to watch them, then they can do so afterwards at no irratation to the rest of the party

BenjZee · Apr 08, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41

did it with my paragon the other day and i didn't get any deaths....
i did have minions in the scene aswell.

why is this topic still active?

MMSDome · Apr 08, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41

yea ive been pretty hesitant to doing this quest because of that reason.

BTW when everyone dies and the envoys res you that doesnt count as a death right?

Bryant Again · Apr 08, 2007, 06:47 PM // 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmithyBen

did it with my paragon the other day and i didn't get any deaths....
i did have minions in the scene aswell.

why is this topic still active?

Because not everyone is so lucky.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMSDome

BTW when everyone dies and the envoys res you that doesnt count as a death right?

Sometimes it does. It's scary.

Edgar The Crosseyed · Apr 08, 2007, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Death bugs are indeed very annoying and cutscene deaths should be taken care of!!!

anyways:

The way to get survivor title is capping elite skills! So just go into prophecies (no reason to die in any of the coops in the whole game) and cap in shiverpeaks and desert and maybe perdition rock.

Go into nightfall and progress quickly to the mainland and go cap there..

Get some guildies to do the easy missions in NF and Proph and you'll be fine

Edgar

Cammy · Apr 10, 2007, 02:12 AM // 02:12

Okay so I risked my Survivor title today and did Vizunah Square (local) and as soon as the shield and sword came up I logged out. Log back in, mission complete, 0 deaths. It seems logging out right after you get the mission complete shield is the best way to go.

Alternatively, a guildie also did this mission and the entire group skipped the cutscene, which also resulted in 0 deaths. Although since the group was comprised entirely of our guild, it was predetermined that the cutscene would be skipped, so there's none of that "14/15 people want to skip but are forced to watch the scene anyways" business.

Meat Axe · Apr 10, 2007, 10:43 AM // 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by General Zephyr

I dont know if this has been mentioned before, but why not have the option of watching the cutscenes at a later date, say after the mission after you've left your party. Then have a majority vote during the mission whether to skip or not...if only one or two people really want to watch them, then they can do so afterwards at no irratation to the rest of the party

People who actually care about the storyline won't like this. It breaks your involvement if you're made to manually activate the cutscene at a later time. I honestly would never PUG again if this suggestion was implemented (not that I do much PUGing now anyway)

I think a better way to do it would be to let people seperate from the party and skip ahead of the cutscene if they wanted.

Torqual · Apr 10, 2007, 02:09 PM // 14:09

I did this straight after getting Survivor (1), without dying, and managed to go on and get to Legendary Survivor (eventually).

If your target is Legendary Survivor then I concur that it is extremely difficult to get this without progressing past Vizunah. You're basically ruling yourself out of all the high-end Factions content, which includes a good 40+ easy and safe skill caps just in the Kaineng area.

With my Leg S, I went up to Ember Light Camp in Prophecies, Arborstone in Factions and Venta Cemetary in Nightfall.

If people are still losing Survivors in Vizunah then this is really nasty; the way I did it is by getting a specific bunch of guildies together and then pointing out to the non-Guild members of the team that I was doing the title and would like everyone to skip the cutscene at the end; which they did.